Posts by Charles Gillette

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Hidden history of the Watchtower religion

by TerryWalstrom in

the deeper you dig--the less impressive jw’s become!___________________you may think you know the men who are vitally important to the birth of the religion--but chances are good you’ve been kept in the dark.. _____________.

did you know?the 1st case heard by the supreme court of the united states concerning the watchtower society involved a director (an officer) of the watchtower, william franklyn hudgings.. a brief description of hudgings and his character.hudgings was an attorney, quack doctor, self-identified ‘scientist’, a pro-zionist, and religious enthusiast who over the years held various director and officer positions in the watchtower society, and the affiliated people's pulpit association and international bible students association.

at the time of this particular case, william hudgings acknowledged being the corporate secretary of the people's pulpit association and acknowledged that his daily duties included the administrative charge of printing of the watchtower magazine, the bible student's monthly, the kingdom news, and other watchtower publications.. (hudgings was also re-elected to the watchtower society board of directors in january 1919.

Charles Gillette

Terry, Excellent, outstanding history lesson. It reminds me of Don Cameron's Captives of a Concept page 45,those who do a history study of the watchtower don't ask for a Bible study later.

However,page 127 informs teaching Watchtower history is not easy for Jehovah's Witnesses for a couple of reasons...1.They have not studied it themselves. 2. There isn't any program set up for them to teach it.

This is how I and millions like me became a watchtower slave for 33 years! O how I wish I took the time to study their history back in 1969.

Like Don wrote and you have shown here, what did we know back then?It is persons like you who take the time to show us this history now that I am sure is helping many on this site to share your hard work and time for us to others.

Thanks again for your love! Blueblades

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Jehovah's Witnesses and the Great Crowd

by Meshech in

as jesus christ was preparing to go to his death, he encouraged his disciples with these words:.

"in my father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, i would have told you.

i go to prepare a place for you.

Charles Gillette

Meshech. Thank you for the memories. I was a watchtower slave for 33 years in Brooklyn.

With all due respect to all your hard work. This discussion from the Bible is meaningless and moot. This not an attack on you. It is about the issue of the bibical material being used as if it actually is the word of god.

Which many persons including myself believe it is the writings of men.Historically it has been proven that the bible is not from god. Hence,the reason I say that anyone using it is meaningless and moot.

However for those that do believe and can prove that belief, that the bible is actually from god to themselves than you have made a great effort to help them understand the one and only belief of the heavenly hope for them.

I only wish that I could be part of that belief but i am convinced otherwise.

Meshech take good care of yourself.

Blueblades

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When was Jesus born: Another interesting date.

by fulltimestudent in

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quote: "jonathan cahn on the jim bakker show nov.12th, 2012. cahn uses detective work to figure out that jesus was born on the first day of the jewish new year, known as nissan 1, in 6 b.c.

compelling correlation of jewish feast days and their foreshadowing of the life and work of jesus.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptlsxttf6n0.

Charles Gillette

He has not returned as promised in the first century generation. 2,000 years later and no Jesus!

For me it means that there never was a Jesus.

Blueblades

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What JW Beliefs Did You Find Difficult To Explain?

by minimus in

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there are a lot.

anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.

what can you add to the list?

Charles Gillette

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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?

by minimus in

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do people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?

are they now infrequent lurkers?.

did they go back to the watchtower?.

Charles Gillette

Mini In ten years I will be 83 years old if I live that long.

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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?

by minimus in

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friends

do people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?

are they now infrequent lurkers?.

did they go back to the watchtower?.

Charles Gillette

Well Mini, you and I use to have some good chats back in the day,2002 forward. You remember me as your friend Blueblades.

Then Simon changed the site and I lost my password and had to sign on as Darwin, then Mall cop etc. So now I am who I am Charles Gillette.

Elvis is my favorite performer. Military Army guy, Movies, Concerts records etc. I grew up with his music.

The watchtower took that away for some time. Anyway we had some good discussions back in 2002 under Blueblades.

I asked Simon if I could get my Blueblades back on the site when he changed it and was very busy, so I understand why he could not do it. So here I am now. I missed you and all the old timers that passed away since those days. Yes I wonder where the rest are now too many to mention here. I appreciate all that are here now. I read many posts and comment on few.

Good topic as always,take care of yourself.

Blueblades

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Overcoming our Evolutionary purpose in order to save mankind (A most interesting discussion)

by TerryWalstrom in

recently bret weinstein and richard dawkins sat down for a debate.in the following video, weinstein talks about what can be done to address an error in dawkins'selfish gene theory in terms of the new atheism's error and regarding religion as a mind virus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8fksjljtm&t=1096s_____and a good follow up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5yn2g4h54&t=904s.

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Charles Gillette

JP 1692 Agreed,not the believer,the cultural belief and religious organizations.

I was a watchtower slave for 33 years 1969 thru 2002. I am 73 years old now.

As Terry pointed out kindness, empathy and listening I think is the way now. And yet I understand where Dawkins is coming from.

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Overcoming our Evolutionary purpose in order to save mankind (A most interesting discussion)

by TerryWalstrom in

recently bret weinstein and richard dawkins sat down for a debate.in the following video, weinstein talks about what can be done to address an error in dawkins'selfish gene theory in terms of the new atheism's error and regarding religion as a mind virus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8fksjljtm&t=1096s_____and a good follow up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5yn2g4h54&t=904s.

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Charles Gillette

John Lennon's Imagine. Will it ever happen? I am sure it will, but not in the near future,in the distance future our children's children.

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Overcoming our Evolutionary purpose in order to save mankind (A most interesting discussion)

by TerryWalstrom in

recently bret weinstein and richard dawkins sat down for a debate.in the following video, weinstein talks about what can be done to address an error in dawkins'selfish gene theory in terms of the new atheism's error and regarding religion as a mind virus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8fksjljtm&t=1096s_____and a good follow up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5yn2g4h54&t=904s.

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Charles Gillette

However, has not religion for the most part been the catalyst for religious wars throughout history even as I write this question now?

While there is some benefit to a belief system to the individual it is off set by the horrors of wars that are still going on killing millions earth wide.

My God blesses my belief system over yours.

Evolution does not cause wars.Dawkins may have hit on something when he detests religions and their gods.

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Overcoming our Evolutionary purpose in order to save mankind (A most interesting discussion)

by TerryWalstrom in

recently bret weinstein and richard dawkins sat down for a debate.in the following video, weinstein talks about what can be done to address an error in dawkins'selfish gene theory in terms of the new atheism's error and regarding religion as a mind virus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8fksjljtm&t=1096s_____and a good follow up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr5yn2g4h54&t=904s.

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Charles Gillette

There is a lot of food here to digest. Is he saying that a cultural belief system has a benefit to the believer and so is not a mind virus as Dawkins has concluded.

Yes evolution is true as the evidence proves. However, we should not be attacking believers cultural belief or religious institutions because evolution is true.

Don't be angry at religion,just keep showing the evidence concerning where evolution has come and is progressing to our future.

I agree that Dawkins has made an error that has effected the progress of evolution in his book for this generation and needs to be corrected.